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Techniques for tracking mining ROI

I’d love to hear how various miners track their ROI, what systems you have developed, how you keep track, etc…

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The following content was written by windpath on April 07, 2014, 04:19:32 PM in the thread Techniques for tracking mining ROI. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


I’d love to hear how various miners track their ROI, what systems you have developed, how you keep track, etc…

The following content was written by precrime3 on April 07, 2014, 04:28:39 PM in the thread Techniques for tracking mining ROI. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


I’d love to hear how various miners track their ROI, what systems you have developed, how you keep track, etc…

keeping a log? There is no automatic system, is that whats your after. its not that hard to say “okay I earned this much on this day” and just add them together.

The following content was written by beatljuice on April 07, 2014, 05:08:25 PM in the thread Techniques for tracking mining ROI. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


Spreadsheet.

Cost of equipment
Electricity (Don’t forget cooling and lighting)
Repairs
Re-investment
Current value of equipment (depreciation is fast on mining equipment)
Time (most people don’t keep track of this, but at least keep it in mind)
Snacks/entertainment (Do you have a subscription to Pandora you listen to while working? Need energy drinks to stay awake?)
Mileage (Had to hit Fry’s for a power supply?)
Space used (Renting to your business is a good money maker/write off)
Internet access and equipment

It can be kind of fun, and I’m sure I’m missing things.



The following content was written by cloverme on April 07, 2014, 07:57:09 PM in the thread Techniques for tracking mining ROI. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


I’d love to hear how various miners track their ROI, what systems you have developed, how you keep track, etc…

Started out with a spreadsheet then made a custom app written in C# that provides some minimal forecasting.

The following content was written by firejuan on April 08, 2014, 08:45:45 PM in the thread Techniques for tracking mining ROI. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


Not a tax expert, but some of beatljuice’s list could possibly used as tax information for US miners since mining income is considered a type of self employment so now you can keep up with ROI and HOPEFULLY get some tax breaks.

I’d love to hear how various miners track their ROI, what systems you have developed, how you keep track, etc…

Spreadsheet.

Cost of equipment
Electricity (Don’t forget cooling and lighting)
Repairs
Re-investment
Current value of equipment (depreciation is fast on mining equipment)
Time (most people don’t keep track of this, but at least keep it in mind)
Snacks/entertainment (Do you have a subscription to Pandora you listen to while working? Need energy drinks to stay awake?)
Mileage (Had to hit Fry’s for a power supply?)
Space used (Renting to your business is a good money maker/write off)
Internet access and equipment

It can be kind of fun, and I’m sure I’m missing things.


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Sabertooth z87 and 6 280x

I only get the os to recognize 4 gpus, not sure if I need to jump some pci-e pins or not, or maybe I’m missing something else.

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The following content was written by ivanlabrie on January 02, 2014, 07:05:44 PM in the thread Sabertooth z87 and 6 280x. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


Hi, anyone gotten this to work? I’m using Win 8 currently…trying to avoid bamt since I want a 64 bit os for cpu mining and easier to setup monitoring and remote control (can’t setup port forward with my isp)

I only get the os to recognize 4 gpus, not sure if I need to jump some pci-e pins or not, or maybe I’m missing something else.

The following content was written by frostamation on January 03, 2014, 12:24:48 AM in the thread Sabertooth z87 and 6 280x. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


are you using powered or unpowered pcie risers? i ask because some people have had luck getting their gpus to recognize with powered risers and not having to jump the pcie port with a wire.

The following content was written by frostamation on January 03, 2014, 12:31:06 AM in the thread Sabertooth z87 and 6 280x. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


heres some info about the pcie jump and risers http://www.gobitgo.com/articles/1001/How-To-Correctly-Use-and-Install-PCI-E-Riser-Cables/

The following content was written by ivanlabrie on January 03, 2014, 02:06:28 AM in the thread Sabertooth z87 and 6 280x. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


Thanks, I read a guide there…before trying this.

I’m using powered risers. Maybe I lack the correct chipset drivers to enable the two pci-e 2.0 slots that don’t feed off the cpu?
I did install a chipset driver but it didn’t help.

Gonna try bamt 1.2 tomorrow and see if ti runs.
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Advice choosing a PSU ? Only drawing 550w MAX ??

I have an MSI Mb and x2 280x cards and it’s only using a 550w max. I am not concerned about the efficiency as I have free electric in work.

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The following content was written by bilabonic on January 03, 2014, 05:27:16 PM in the thread Advice choosing a PSU ? Only drawing 550w MAX ?? . All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


Hi All

I have an MSI Mb and x2 280x cards and it’s only using a 550w max . I am not concerned about the efficiency as i have free electric in work Grin

The biggest factor is price.

Is there a formula or % to add to the 550w being used ??

Or do you subtract a figure from the PSU rating ??

I am also based in the UK

Thanks

The following content was written by pletharoe on January 04, 2014, 05:11:38 AM in the thread Advice choosing a PSU ? Only drawing 550w MAX ?? . All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


How did you come to the 550W figure? According to https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/#specifications each card needs 300W.

Then you also need to factor in the power used by the rest of the machine.

Then add a factor of say 20% to accommodate spikes in power draw.

I’d look at something with 700 – 800 watts and 80plus certification. Stick to the big brands. Wattage isn’t actually the best measure… taken from http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine


The recommended total Power Supply Wattage gives you a general idea on what to look for BUT it is NOT a crucial factor in power supply selection! Total Amperage Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most important, followed by the +5V amperage and then the +3.3V amperage

The following content was written by bilabonic on January 04, 2014, 08:14:54 AM in the thread Advice choosing a PSU ? Only drawing 550w MAX ?? . All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


How did you come to the 550W figure? According to https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/#specifications each card needs 300W.

Then you also need to factor in the power used by the rest of the machine.

Then add a factor of say 20% to accommodate spikes in power draw.

I’d look at something with 700 – 800 watts and 80plus certification. Stick to the big brands. Wattage isn’t actually the best measure… taken from http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine


The recommended total Power Supply Wattage gives you a general idea on what to look for BUT it is NOT a crucial factor in power supply selection! Total Amperage Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most important, followed by the +5V amperage and then the +3.3V amperage

Thanks for reply.

I’m using a kill-a-wattmeter, the MAX it has used is 550w inc MB. I just want to run 2 cards off the MB/PSU.

So add 20% to 550w = 660w, so a 700/750w 80plus will be ok.


Think i will get this –

http://www.dabs.com/products/coolermaster-700w-g-series-g700w-80–bronze-power-supply-8Z2S.html?refs=394900000&src=3
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Static IP and network defense

I am confident in securing my network, but I’d like to hear what network appliances people are using to protect their mining operations.

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The following content was written by 2tights on January 07, 2014, 06:43:11 PM in the thread Static IP and network defense. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


I know the main concern for attack is a DDOS attack. I have a static IPV4 address for my home network. I’m concerned that if my IP ends up on a malicious user’s, or bitcoin hater’s, shit-list that I may become a target. I am confident in securing my network, but I’d like to hear what network appliances people are using to protect their mining operations.

The following content was written by Kenshin on January 07, 2014, 06:49:04 PM in the thread Static IP and network defense. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


If you have a good firewall then it should drop the DDOS.

The following content was written by cp1 on January 07, 2014, 06:49:14 PM in the thread Static IP and network defense. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


My new router has a checkbox that says “Enable DDOS protection”. No idea if it works well. I’m sure Cisco could sell you something, but I don’t think you’d like the prices. There’s got to be something you can install in a linux box.

The following content was written by Hax8 on January 09, 2014, 08:59:14 PM in the thread Static IP and network defense. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


It is really difficult to counter a DDoS. Protection built in to the router/firewall just drops the rogue packets without replying but there is no way the router can stop all that traffic from still traversing the pipe and hitting your router/firewall.

You can either:
– Have more bandwidth than the attackers which will still allow your legitimate traffic. With amplification attacks, this is very costly!
– Have your ISP block the traffic further upstream leaving your pipe free.
– Use one of the companies that provide this service which normally means you use them as a proxy hiding your true IP.
– Setup your own proxies in hosted datacentre’s and hide behind those.

That is all I can think of at the moment.

If the mining setup is in your home/office, I would just pull in another internet pipe. Preferably with a different ISP and switch to that when required. Or just use a dedicated line for the miners minimising exposure of your IP to third parties.

The following content was written by cp1 on January 09, 2014, 09:03:17 PM in the thread Static IP and network defense. All content is owned by the author of the bitcointalk.org post. (original)


You could always tell your ISP you’re being attacked and maybe get a new IP assigned? Or go through a VPN for $10 a month for all your traffic.
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